傳統相機一台可以用幾十年，幾家相機大廠都快撐不下去了！好不容易發明了強迫你三、四年就得汰換的數位機身，總算可以敲一筆。monk 寫:DSLR 目前在反差與銳利度還是無法突破。為何沒廠商製造可更換感光原件的零件，讓user 輕鬆升級？
換感光元件？那他們還賺什麼！
話說回來，Kodak 的 14n 好像是可以升級成 SLR/n，不過價錢～
DPReview.com 的 Nikon D70 full review/ vs Canon EOS 300D
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Chao, the good one
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在下於日前（四月十五日）已經在友人登陸火星的鼓勵（抑或脅迫？）下進場購進 D70 。關於此點也令在下失望，但其他功能表現來看，感覺還不錯。所以只好自我安慰：有一好沒兩好，事事「求缺」，方能圓滿。monk 寫:這 D70 iso 是200 起跳，難怪反差比較平。
最近也想購買D70，原本還期待有 iso 50。看到數據是有點沮喪。
Dpreview 的報告可能反映了測試者對D70 的色彩與整體呈現的偏好，因為解像力似乎canon 略勝一籌。
對，在下也覺得 N70 的快速鍵設計不賴。可能是在下指頭比較大號，所以還是希望按鈕能夠再大一些…monk 寫:昨天在器材行實地操作 300D 與 D70 ，兩部皆容易上手。唯 D70 快速鍵比較好用。
在下在 FNAC 買連 18-70 的 DX 鏡頭含稅刷卡為 49500 元。搭配 SanDisk 的 CF ，速度感覺很不賴。monk 寫:目前已無水貨，公司貨約38000。聽朋友說前一陣子東森購物台賣一部34000，現在下手可能會買到最高點。
原本以為 RiData 嗆聲 52x 的會比較快，不過 FNAC 只有 SanDisk 且畢竟 SanDisk 還是有其公信力，所以當場就買了 SanDisk ，後來回家後友人登陸火星才找到以下的數據：
Sandisk Ultra II -- 4670 KB/s
Transcend 45x -- 3667 KB/s
Ridata 52X PRO -- 3084 KB/s
所以整體感覺還是很正面的。
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老蔡，請查看電郵…monk 寫:各位已購買D70 的朋友，可否隨意貼幾張讓大家看看 "film like" 的效果？
我因為已有3 顆鏡頭，所以應該會購買D70。水貨快要到了，約34000。呵呵，應該可以下手了。
再提個問題，這隻18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED 看來是沒有光圈調整環，是不是只能數位機身用？
max F3.5 ，口徑也達(dia x len) 73 x 75.5 mm (2.9 x 3.0 in)。也是隻大傢伙。
與這隻在解像力方面不知大家有無研究：
AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED (2.5x)
G鏡可在其他電子機身上，以DIAL操控，如F5，F100，F80，F75，F65等。
I have a few that I posted before. Don't know if these have the "film like" effect to you...
fuigo
fuigo
monk 寫:各位已購買D70 的朋友，可否隨意貼幾張讓大家看看 "film like" 的效果？
我因為已有3 顆鏡頭，所以應該會購買D70。水貨快要到了，約34000。呵呵，應該可以下手了。
再提個問題，這隻18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF-ED 看來是沒有光圈調整環，是不是只能數位機身用？
max F3.5 ，口徑也達(dia x len) 73 x 75.5 mm (2.9 x 3.0 in)。也是隻大傢伙。
與這隻在解像力方面不知大家有無研究：
AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED (2.5x)
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macroadster
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Re: DPReview.com 的 Nikon D70 full review/ vs Canon EOS 300D
我以為只有我這樣覺得呢！商業原因？Chao, the good one 寫:奇怪的是，拿來和 Canon EOS 300D 和 10D 作者都說較好。但我看 details/ sharpness 似乎反而是 Canon 的好，這是怎麼看呢？
Thanks Fuigo!! 
"Film like", seems not much convincing...... But I will try it myself pretty soon.
Do you think its spotmeter handy? Is it troublesome to switch between the meter modes?
By the way, which lens did you use? My favorite one remains 50/1.8. Cheap, sharp and light.........
I am curious about the effect of this 18-70 which Nikon claims "natural blur". Anyone?
"Film like", seems not much convincing...... But I will try it myself pretty soon.
Do you think its spotmeter handy? Is it troublesome to switch between the meter modes?
By the way, which lens did you use? My favorite one remains 50/1.8. Cheap, sharp and light.........
I am curious about the effect of this 18-70 which Nikon claims "natural blur". Anyone?
I use a very cheap lens. The 70-300G is about 3000NT! hee hee!
You should go to dpreview to check out better samples of D70.
Here's one:
The composition is not great, but the sharpness and the color is awesome. He used 85mm f/1.8 D.
fuigo
You should go to dpreview to check out better samples of D70.
Here's one:
The composition is not great, but the sharpness and the color is awesome. He used 85mm f/1.8 D.
fuigo
monk 寫:Thanks Fuigo!!
"Film like", seems not much convincing...... But I will try it myself pretty soon.
Do you think its spotmeter handy? Is it troublesome to switch between the meter modes?
By the way, which lens did you use? My favorite one remains 50/1.8. Cheap, sharp and light.........
I am curious about the effect of this 18-70 which Nikon claims "natural blur". Anyone?
http://www.dpreview.com/gallery/?galler ... 0_samples/
18-70
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/CDISPLAY.HTM
Don't know what lenses are used
http://www.digital-photography-resource ... &password=
18-70
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_rev ... mples.html
Don't know what lenses are used
18-70
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/CDISPLAY.HTM
Don't know what lenses are used
http://www.digital-photography-resource ... &password=
18-70
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_rev ... mples.html
Don't know what lenses are used
monk 寫:Thanks Fuigo!!
"Film like", seems not much convincing...... But I will try it myself pretty soon.
Do you think its spotmeter handy? Is it troublesome to switch between the meter modes?
By the way, which lens did you use? My favorite one remains 50/1.8. Cheap, sharp and light.........
I am curious about the effect of this 18-70 which Nikon claims "natural blur". Anyone?
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Re: DPReview.com 的 Nikon D70 full review/ vs Canon EOS 300D
應該不是商業原因。我的感覺是兩者各有千秋，只是 DP review 在碰到 Nikon 比較略遜的項目較避重就輕。像 Noise 若放大看，Canon 的確比較高明，但作者不知是因一般看不太出來 (放大看細部才明顯？) 還是如何，並沒有給 Canon 加太多分。不過色彩的 smoothness 看起來好像 Nikon 真的好一些，而且 Nikon 的機身應該也會看來不是那麼 plastic。macroadster 寫:我以為只有我這樣覺得呢！商業原因？Chao, the good one 寫:奇怪的是，拿來和 Canon EOS 300D 和 10D 作者都說較好。但我看 details/ sharpness 似乎反而是 Canon 的好，這是怎麼看呢？
心理上搞不好 Nikon 曾經是一流的，現 Canon 似乎獨大。好容易終於等到 Nikon 出招時，大家都給掌聲多一些吧。Canon 的回應也許是先來台黑色的 (已經有了)，再直接跳 8Mp？